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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 25, 2012 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anoushka / Spinning

I understand the sitar is unwieldy and heavy, but not all the instruments on that stage. I suppose some scholarly digging would find some answers, but it's so much easier to ask.

Geethali Shankar is no more after a legal name change. She just came out w/ a new album (rather poor imo). I was looking at a breakdown of the 50 million albums she has sold since 2002. Deducting sales in CAN, FRA, AUS, UK, USA, a majority are sales under World. (http://tinyurl.com/48clwon) I wonder where they are being sold?

Norah has played with so many different folks and sang so many classics. You picked a good one.

This is the only released music of both sisters playing together.

http://tinyurl.com/d7w3q5x

Here is a slice of heaven,

http://tinyurl.com/ctdb6on

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 25, 2012 9:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

I think the real question is: Why do contemporary Western musicians stand up to perform? Classical musicians sit down. Lute players seem to have played sitting down. When musicians jam casually -- say, bluegrass musicians or friends playing guitar -- there's an awful lot of sitting down (at least in my experience). The sarangi players (a kind of rustic fiddle) who still ply their trade on the street here in traditional style, going house to house and singing for money, always sit down while they play and sing.

So ... what's the standing-up thing about? My guess is that it evolved from performance halls and opera singers. Singers tend to stand up if they're not also playing an instrument; it's more natural for the voice. I bet Jenny Lind stood up when she sang, opera-style.

Let's see .... who DIDN'T sit when they performed, historically speaking? Troubadours, I guess. More recently, military bands -- and they were quite popular, just as entertainment, in the 19th century. The funeral bands in New Orleans that contributed to the evolution of jazz would have been a kind of marching band, so they played while standing (or walking). In the jazz era, the players sat but the soloists stood, right? A big band saxophonist would stand to take his solo.

So the standing-up thing, it seems to me, would be a unique contemporary Western habit that evolved to highlight soloists and also may reflect roots in the marching band/funeral traditions as well as the opera/theatrical traditions.

My two cents.

Btw, my expert source (eg my husband) isn't here to ask, but my sense is that "Geethali" means harmonious or lyrical. "Geet" means song.


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Poster: huntr Date: May 26, 2012 9:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

mikey houser from Panic played sitting down for most of his career

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Poster: dark.starz Date: May 27, 2012 6:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

Probably had something to do with the advent of the electric instrument amplifiers in the 30s and the performers relationship to the microphone and speaker enclosures.

If you're "tuned" and playing an electric guitar, bass, sax, fiddle, harp etc. on stage the ability to dance about, access pedals and move back and forth to the microphone stand lends a certain element into the musical expression of the artist.

Operatic performers are theatrical stage actors! Classical musicians are akin to baseball players and bible bangers, everything is by the book! :(



This post was modified by dark.starz on 2012-05-27 13:11:42

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Poster: Phat G Date: May 26, 2012 9:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

Why do musicians play while standing? BECAUSE YOU DON'T GO TO WAR SITTING DOWN.


- smirk -

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 26, 2012 11:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

Unless you're in the cavalry. Or a tank. Or a fighter plane. Or a sub. Or the Pentagon.

Happy Memorial Day :-)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_k07pirzBU34/TEMPio_4TGI/AAAAAAAAFNw/NNAWVsvgnNQ/s1600/Cavalry_Charge.jpg

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: May 26, 2012 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

I was thinking that it meant showcasing the individuality of the players. In our world, slide/keys/drummer players sit down, but that is more part of the function of their instrument, and consequently most are in the background (keys being the least of these). The rest, as you mention, stand up.

Is there something regarding caste or tradition that would have most Eastern players sit? Maybe it's just too damn hot out?

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: May 26, 2012 10:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

Well, my point is that sitting IS the norm globally, and was the norm in the West until very recently ... so I think people just sit because it's always more comfortable to sit. Being human and all.

Once music is a "performance" that's "on stage" rather than just made, and once it's about the individual virtuoso ... well, yeah, things change. But East Asians sit. Native Americans sit. For the most part, I think, people everywhere just sat until recently.

Heck, even the Dead have been known to sit on occasion.

http://kboo.fm/sites/default/files/nodeimages/jer%20bob%20mickey.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/2064/2484480462_c4943b6833.jpg

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Poster: Piles Date: May 27, 2012 4:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

http://www.spin.com/sites/all/files/styles/style620_413/public/120503-mc5.png

You can't get a cool ass photo like this when you're sitting down.

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Poster: GrahamQ Date: Feb 19, 2013 4:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

There is another hypothesis that you might want to consider. Could be false, though it looks good to me.

Jazz musicians, reed and brass, stand up because this allows for proper breathing; and as they stand there, they are neither (1) up-staging some eminent personality nor (2) in danger of knocking over a fully extended music stand.

If the musicians in a big band or a big orchestra were encouraged stand or sit according to the best posture for each different instrument the resulting look would be... um...indecorous.

Limit cases: An early photo of Bix Beiderbecke playing the cornet shows him standing in an awful slouch. How could he DO that? But that's just the old, ever-recurring question about him. As for the tenor sax slouch, that suggests another limit case, but I don't know any more. Graham

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Poster: craven714 Date: May 26, 2012 9:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why DO musicians play while standing?

because they are not drummers?

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Poster: user unknown Date: May 25, 2012 9:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Anoushka / Spinning

not as heavy as most people think...only about 14 pounds

still too heavy to strap over your shoulder and shred heavy metal style ;)

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